Monday, April 30, 2012

I'm Thinkin Orks.....1850 Summer GT Starter List


Adepticon is past and I've still got 3+ GT's lined up for the summer and as I was going thru my models and reorganizing my cases I've found a metric ton of my mostly built Orks. This got me thinking that I'd like to get another army painted up and that I kinda want to bring back my orks. I've got everything I need 90% built but the whole army needs a painting and this is what I'm thinking of running right now:


HQ

Big Mek - 85
KFF

Elite

3 Nobz - 190
Battlewagon w/Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Deffrolla, Grot Rigger

Troop

19 Boyz - 149
Nob w/PK

20 Boyz - 155
Nob w/PK

20 Boyz - 155
Nob w/PK

20 Boyz - 155
Nob w/PK

26 Boyz - 201
2 Big Shootas, Nob w/PK

15 Grots - 55
Runtherd

Fast Attack

3 Warbuggies - 105
3xRokkit

3 Warbuggies - 105
3xRokkit

3 Warbuggies - 105
3xRokkit

Heavy Support

Battlewagon - 130
Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Deffrolla, Grot Rigger

Battlewagon - 130
Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Deffrolla, Grot Rigger

Battlewagon - 130
Big Shoota, Armor Plates, Deffrolla, Grot Rigger

1,850 on the nose. 135 Models that are above average in CC but with a ridiculous amount of shooting. I think it can hang with any variant of GK out there and is nasty against most other armies. I think it has the resiliency and tools to hang long term. What do you guys think?

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L'Etat C'Est Moi's avatar

L'Etat C'Est Moi · 674 weeks ago

Are all the boyz shootas?

What is your counter to blood angels and other similar armies? My big problem with horde orks is that if you are against a fast army or an army that beats you in combat (or both such as blood angels) it is a very up hill battle.
2 replies · active 674 weeks ago
They are all shoota boyz. As for BA's they rarely beat the boyz in CC. Odds are with FnP that the 20 boyz will kill 3 BA's between shooting and assault before the nob goes. The BA's will kill 5. The nob should make up the difference. Then it swings more heavily in their favor. And I should have the speed advantage because of the wagons and the ability to assault out of them.
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L'Etat C'Est Moi · 674 weeks ago

I guess it depends on the BA build. If you loose your wagons chances are their mobility will give them the charge which does not bode well for the Orks. Knowing you there will be buggies blocking charge paths and such so it should be a big issue, just a potential problem.

Are you going to Midwest Massacre in September?
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Killsiwtch · 674 weeks ago

No Ghaz? I don't rate wagons, infact when I see wagons I think (thank god that isn't a horde). Orks without Ghaz are such a walk in the park, ghazghull with snikrot is a different game!
1 reply · active 674 weeks ago
I feel Ghaz is overrated. I can see why some people wouldn't rate wagons but if depends on what you take with them and in them. The list has 105 Orks, 80 of which are riding in BW's all with shootas supported by 9 buggies for vehicle killing and marine squad softening. I think it can do well, especially with movement tricks from the buggies :)
I'd put boarding planks on your wagons before grot riggers. I cannot count the number of times the deathrolla has not killed a vehicle I rammed, but immobilized it instead (or, a vehicle I didn't want to ram, like a dread), but the boarding plank's 4 s9 attacks finished it off without needing to disembark the boyz. Other than that, it looks quite workable.
1 reply · active 674 weeks ago
Those points could be found :)
No boss poles. They aren't always worth it, but I wouldn't roll without them. Drop armor plates?
Taking this to the Bugeater?

(I assume you'll be there?)
1 reply · active 674 weeks ago
I'll be at the Bugeater, even if I have no idea what I'm taking yet. Might be CSM!!!! or a Calgar led SM or some random Xenos :D
Interesting list.. Although I can say not that scarry on papar. Without Ghazy, It just doesn't have the "fear of god" element. Maybe I'm underestimating it, be be warned there are alot of ork players around here so A. people know orks, and B. you will be facing orks. Saw alot of Vulcan recently also. like 25% of the last RTT was SM Vulcan lists with multiple vindi's.
1 reply · active 674 weeks ago
It's not about surprising people. Orks have been around for 5ish years now I think. There aren't going to be any surprises against people that play regularly anymore. However I feel it has the flexibility and resilience to last. But I could be wrong, it's happened before :)
To be honest, if an ork player is afraid of a Vindicator then they really shouldn't be playing against marines. Large blast templates, yes can kill alot of orks but they don't ignore cover any more than any other direct fire weapon. The thing orks have to watch out for in those lists is anything that can kill lots of models and ignore cover.

Hulksmash, give it a go. Can't hurt and hopefully I will see you on the battlefield again in the future. I've ran a similar list and was somewhat successful. the only downside is nothing to harass the backfield effectively.

Archfiend
I would also thin out that big Blob and add boarding planks.

Hell, It might be worth it to thin it to the point of getting a 2nd big Mek. Being able to work 2 groups of 2 wagons might be useful in some situations.

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