Wednesday, October 24, 2012

Random 1,850 Chaos List w/Daemon Allies


So this is just something that sparked my interest while I sat here at work. It’s slightly based around my need to convert but it does look like fun.

Primary Detachment: Chaos Space Marines

HQ
Chaos Lord – Mark of Khorne, Juggernaught, Axe of Blinding Fury, Gift of Mutation, Sigil of Corruption, Veteran of the Long War

Troop
10 Chaos Marines – 2 Plasma Guns

10 Chaos Marines – 2 Plasma Guns

Fast Attack
Heldrake – Bale Flamer

Heldrake – Bale Flamer

5 Chaos Spawn

Heavy Support
5 Havocs – 4 Autocannons

5 Havocs – 4 Autocannons

5 Havocs – 4 Autocannons

Total: 1,360

Allied Detachment: Daemons

HQ
The Masque

Elite
6 Flamers

Troop
5 Plague Bearers

Fast Attack
7 Screamers

Total: 488

Army Total: 1,848
Total Models: 62

So what you have here is a lot of punch. The core list revolves around 35 CSM that contain 16 special/heavy weapons. This is the scoring and ranged portion of the list for the most part. This in turn is supported by the seriously killy portion of the list which consists of the Lord and his escorting spawn, dual heldrakes with bale flamers, screamers, and flamers.

The Masque is a fun choice. For 100pts I get a model that can’t be ignored since it still can move your models. I feel that in a average turn we’re talking about moving 2 units 3”-4”. Combining this with Heldrakes and Flamers means a very real chance that this model can ensure the destruction of entire units. Not to mention the help of pulling things in closer for combats with the lord and screamers. Overall seems like a fun list. I’m a little torn on the troops though as whenever I include allies I always feel light on troops. This is an option in the troop department:

Troops (Allied & Primary)

10 CSM w/2 Plasma
10 Cultists
10 Cultists
5 Plague Bearers
5 Plague Bearers

This requires losing 3 points. I’d basically have to drop the VotLW on my lord.

Another option:

Troops (Allied & Primary)
10 Cultists
10 Cultists
9 Horrors
9 Horrors

It’s a lot of AP4 shots that come out of these units. Granted the range isn’t amazing but 54 St4 shots isn’t something to sneeze at. Though they aren’t quite as resilient as the marines but they do have a slightly higher damage output outside of rapid fire range.

Lastly you could go for the resilience game:

Troops (Allied & Primary)
10 Cultists
10 Cultists
11 Plaguebearers
10 Plaguebearers

It’s extremely resilient but doesn’t provide any true offensive capability.

So many options! Feel free to weigh in!

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The troops issue was the first thing I though of. Two squads of marines will go down fast in a world of dragons with flamers (not to mention GK shooting). I personally like the first option with five troops.
3 replies · active 649 weeks ago
Also, how do you plan to keep the Masque alive? I don't see any units she can go in, and 2W at T3 won't last long on it's own...
She's always on her own. She's not an independent character and so can't join units. Her value is in her 1-2 turns of bunching people up for flamers or the charge :)
Good call there on not being independent. That is surprising.

I am slipping her into a list I am trying tomorrow, so I will let you know how that goes.
I'm not sure how you're standing by your contention that Helldrakes aren't deforming the meta.
1 reply · active 649 weeks ago
I don't think they break or deform the meta. Doesn't mean that most things worth taking aren't worth taking two of. One is the possibility of not getting to do anything thanks to aegis cannons. Two means I'll get two uses out of at least one. Meaning I generally get my points back. It's pretty simple actually :)
So Hulk, was your Nova list 5 points over?
1 reply · active 649 weeks ago
Nope, but I did type it incorrectly in the other post. One of th Strike squads had a halberd instead of a hammer. Thanks for askin in the wrong post though :)
Tried in the Nova post but didn't get an answer. But I guess no-one reads old posts. :-P
2 replies · active 646 weeks ago
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spaguatyrine · 648 weeks ago

Are you a troll?
no just a concerned citizen with a desire to speak truth to power...
Or he's a troll, probably the later but the first sounds less "mouth breathing".
I'M A TROLL!!!

Or just curious. :-)

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