Friday, December 24, 2010

1,850 Terminator Lists for Adepticon! Which one?

So I’ve been on a huge terminator kick lately and have been looking for a way to field an army including minimum 20 of the buggers at 1,850. I’m tempted to roll something like this out for Adepticon so here are 3 different lists I’ve come up with from codex SW, BA, and CSM. I’ll try and highlight the difference and what I think the list will suffer against briefly for each list.

First one up is my Blood Angels one.

Libarian-100
Shield of Sanguinius, Fear the Darkness

10 Tactical Terminators-460
2xCyclone Missile Launchers

10 Tactical Terminators-460
2xCyclone Missile Launchers

Sanguinairy Priest-50

5 Assault Marines-120
Heavy Bolter Razorback

5 Assault Marines-120
Heavy Bolter Razorback

5 Assault Marines-115
Rhino

5 Scout Bikers-150
3xAstartes Grenade Launchers, Cluster Mines, Melta Bomb

Predator-135
Auto-Cannon, Lascannon Sponsons

Predator-135
Auto-Cannon, Lascannon Sponsons

So my fear with this list is those big TWC character/unit armies. This army has the speed, firepower, and durability to last out against most opponents and the SP makes it almost required to shoot your AP1-2 weapons at the termies if you want to kill them. I like it. Scout bikes are a disruption unit obviously.

Chaos Space Marine List

Sorceror-125
MoS, Lash

Sorceror-125
MoS, Lash

10 Terminators-455
2xDual LC, 4xCombi-Plasma, 2xChain Fists, 2xReaper AC, MoT

10 Terminators-455
2xDual LC, 4xCombi-Plasma, 2xChain Fists, 2xReaper AC, MoT
5 Chaos Marines-120
Melta Gun, Rhino

5 Chaos Marines-120
Melta Gun, Rhino

2 Obliterators-150

2 Obliterators-150

2 Obliterators-150

So while this list fears the TWC army it fears it far less as the entire unit is sitting on a 4++ in CC and has pretty solid shooting to back it up. Primary concern with this list is actually IG that field PBS’s. As the “marks” don’t make you fearless and I could lose the 455pts fairly easily. Also lack of rallying if below 50% is pretty bad here too. Minimal troops but this is a pushing army so it should be alright. This is the army I’m most open to tweaking right now and totally open for ideas. I even considered on foot Noise Marine Squads w/Blastmasters for more ranged support but I just can’t decide J


Space Wolves List

Rune Priest-100
Storm Caller, Murderous Hurricane

10 Wolf Guard Terminators-480
2xTermies w/WC+SS
2xTermies w/CF+Cyclone
4xTermies w/Combi-Plasma

10 Wolf Guard Terminators-480
2xTermies w/WC+SS
2xTermies w/CF+Cyclone
4xTermies w/Combi-Plasma

5 Grey Hunters-120
Melta, HB Razorback

5 Grey Hunters-120
Melta, HB Razorback

5 Grey Hunters-120
Melta, HB Razorback

5 Grey Hunters-120
Melta, HB Razorback

5 Long Fangs-155
4xML’s, HB Razorback

5 Long Fangs-155
4xML’s, HB Razorback

So this list has more troops and some pretty solid fire power distribution. I’m tempted to drop one troop and get a unit of scouts for the army for disruption but I’m not sold on it. These terminators are also over all the most vulnerable from shooting/assault. No FnP means more wounds from mass shooting and no 4++ across the entire unit means more wounds in CC against combat monsters. That said it has the most firepower and troop spread of the 3.

So thoughts? Vote and don’t be afraid to give reasons why you voted how you did. I’d like to get some good discussion on terminator builds. And please don’t suggest Deathwing. I’ve tried and that list just doesn’t work J

4 comments:

Nuclear said...
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Nuclear said...

Have you considered a shrike based assault termie list like this one:

http://kirbysblog-ic.blogspot.com/2010/12/email-in-2000pt-raven-guard-redo.html

might not be what you are looking for, but could be fun.

As for the lists you gave, I think the SW list is the best, as it provies the best long range support, and the termies, with 2 SS, are a bit harder to kill.

(deleted first comment because of wrong link)

Bully said...

I actually quite like the BA list. x20 terms is scary as hell with FNP and take a lot of shooting to drop, even with AP1/2 going into them (honestly how much AP1/2 do you bring to the game w/ out tailoring? maybe lasplas spam but thats about it).

I'd say the BA's offer the shooty terms the best chance, I don't mind the SW list - but like you say they are vulnerable.

Back to the BA list - I've got some scout bikers tucked away and I quite liked the rapid fire AGL but for a few points less I was thinking of HB attack bikes - coming in at 120 point's for 3 - thats 9 s5 shots @ BS4 a turn - free's up a few more points to upgrade that rhino to a razor back and maybe spread a little bit of WG around - a couple of MG in the RAS for E.G.

20 FNP terms walking towards you is scary, just put it that way.

wuestenfux said...

My favorite list is the CSM army. But it has just two scoring units. What are the rules at Adepticon?

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