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Obviously fearless is the key. Throw all 3 in trukks, maybe give 1 or 2 buzz saws, and they are a torpedo of unstoppable death. Obviously you need to play terrain smartly, but even when the trukks are destroyed, with some smart mid-field objective placement you'll be impossible to remove and put out a whooping.<br /><br />I have to say that the Ork tactical thread on Warseer is pretty active, or at least that's where I'm posting. A lot of people have been having fun with Dread Mobs and such. I think there is a lot that can be done with Da Finkin Cap and the high probability of getting infiltrate. I know people who've been running the green tide with the cap with pretty good success. Some of those lists are on Warseer. Honestly Da Finkin Cap is the best piece of wargear for the price, ever. All of the traits on the strategic warlord trait table are great.<br /><br />I'm sure some kind of list can be built around the Blitz Brigade, but with the great mobility of stormboyz/bikes and the fact that anything can capture objectives now, I just feel less need to throw everything in a vehicle. Add to that the fact that with the new mob rule you might be taking wounds when the vehicle explodes twice, once for pinning and another for casualties, and I'm just hesitant to put anything non-fearless in a vehicle. I've ran a WB with lucky stick, mad dok grotsnik and some MANz in a BW before with pretty good results though.<br /><br />My current list, and the one I'm undefeated with (though I won't have it painted in time to tourney), even against bike/waveserpent/etc. heavy lists looks like this:<br /><br />HQ:<br />WB+Bike+HeadwoppaKillchoppa (I've carved through 3 dreadknights in a game)<br />WB+Finkin Cap/BigMek+KFF/Painboy<br /><br />Elite:<br />3x5 Bully Boyz + Trukks<br /><br />Troops:<br />2x10 man Gretchin squads<br /><br />Fast:<br />2x20 man stormboyz<br />9 bike boyz<br /><br />Heavy:<br />Lootas<br />Big Mek Gunz w/ 2x traktor, 3x smasha (these guns wreck)<br />Big Mek Gunz w/ 5x lobbasZeelobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013801361773734260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-75284044934271875532014-09-04T19:03:36.478-07:002014-09-04T19:03:36.478-07:00Bully Boyz? I've ordered a Ghazghkull Codex, ...Bully Boyz? I've ordered a Ghazghkull Codex, and should be able to pick it up tomorrow - I'm not sure what that is. You say not to rely on Battlewagons...but the Blitz Brigade looks so...sexy. But I'm also coming from a 5th Edition view. You have any lists? Battle Reports to look at? Inspiration?Dashofpepperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11981756173018669873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-56858673490506545492014-09-02T06:24:04.571-07:002014-09-02T06:24:04.571-07:00Been running Orks again since codex release, been ...Been running Orks again since codex release, been 6-0 so far. Bully Boyz is a great formation, stormboyz are amazing. The new mek gunz are cheap and effective, loota boyz still get the job done. I mean as long as you're not deadset on using Ghaz, there are still plenty of assaulty Ork builds that work, trukk boyz are just weak.<br /><br />Basically if you mob up, and don't rely on Battlewagons to get the work done (which honestly were way too necessary in the past), they're still a powerful army. I've had successful anti-tank with smasha guns, rocket buggies on the flank, and of course the trusty powerklaw MAN or stormboyz nob.<br /><br />Also, the FoC in the book is for a specific formation. They still follow the same FoC as the rulebook for a basic army, with 2 troops. Objective Secured isn't the end-all be-all it was in 6th, since everything can capture. Add that to the current tournament trend of Malestrom-ish scenarios + Orks mobility (12" move + 2D6" run + 2D6" assault + reroll lowest assault on stormboyz) and I take the minimal 2 grot units, and load up on elites, fast attack and heavy support. Something Orks were never able to do in 5th/6th.<br /><br />It's honestly the first time I've been able to run a rainbow list and win games without spamming BWs and MANz.Zeelobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013801361773734260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-2346542005450415772014-09-02T06:19:06.926-07:002014-09-02T06:19:06.926-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Zeelobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18013801361773734260noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-69425197524977510542014-08-28T14:00:19.873-07:002014-08-28T14:00:19.873-07:00Tourneys will probably start allowing codex LoW on...Tourneys will probably start allowing codex LoW once more books get updated.<br /><br />orks have a what, 14+ 3d6 assault distance from their transports? Not to mention scouting battlewagons are just wrong. I think orks are just fine. Nobs as troops don't matter any more since everything is scoring.<br />The ork foc is an optional one, as you can still use the standard one if you'd like.TheGraveMindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02202256201375802641noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-42437296708293063752012-10-01T14:38:00.273-07:002012-10-01T14:38:00.273-07:00Thank you, Dashofpepper, for the laugh. Much resp...Thank you, Dashofpepper, for the laugh. Much respect. Love #9a Sent Onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13985913087960289002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-47645376866873782672012-07-14T13:43:23.670-07:002012-07-14T13:43:23.670-07:00I know your pain with the GK.
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I have a pretty solid win rate against my casual group of friends (around 80% or so) but the win rate you have on the competitive scene really blows that outta the water XD.<br /><br />I've played DE for the past nine years or so, and much like yourself, have really enjoyed the challenge of playing - and winning with - an underdog army. Just goes to show it's the general behind the army that is really responsible for the win.<br /><br />Anyways, cheers and happy gaming. Thought I should give you some positive feedback since I really do appreciate it.Sovereignhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124780146312726453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-68391683551087072012011-06-05T14:14:41.451-07:002011-06-05T14:14:41.451-07:00Option Number 2. It would be difficult to get used...Option Number 2. 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To me its still modeling for advantage. <br /><br />It is not that hard to order off of ebay 20 or so splintercannons and glue them on vypers. A very quick method of painting is to buy some masking tape and prime the model black and then tape some parts and prime white for a very clean line.The Hodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13116254607397109605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-70053044691634691062011-05-27T20:46:41.064-07:002011-05-27T20:46:41.064-07:00I would go for the Vypers. After reading your batt...I would go for the Vypers. After reading your battle reports you use the pivot after the move for extra movement and range. The Vyper/Venom is more of a box and you can not use that tactic.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02260451855001533307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5155691433231130852.post-28805208652816259462011-05-27T17:55:31.687-07:002011-05-27T17:55:31.687-07:00Hey Dash. 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